‘Meditation and poetry writing both require dropping out of the conventional chatter of the more superficial dialogue we’re always having in our brains with the world and with our ego. Both practices depend on diving deeper, into a different layer which is less busy and a great deal more receptive. Receptive to what exactly? A psychological explanation would say you’re listening to your unconscious. A mythological explanation would say you’re listening to the muse. A religious explanation in a Judeo-Christian setting would be you’re listening to God. The vocabulary doesn’t matter. We all know what the experience is when we are listening to our lives at a greater depth.’ (from an interview in the San Francisco Chronicle)