T’ou-Tzu

‘You come here looking for sayings and talks, novel expressions and elegant lines, uselessly taking to verbalization. I am old and my energy is not up to par; I’m a dull speaker and have no idle talk for you.

If you ask me questions, I answer in accord with your questions, but I have no mysterious marvel that can be conveyed to you, and I won’t have you get fixated.

I never assert the existence of Buddha and Dharma, of ordinary person and sage, either in the beyond or the here and now; and I have no intention of sitting here tying you people down. You go through a thousand changes, but all of it is you people conceiving interpretations, carrying them with you, experiencing the results of your own doings. I have nothing here for you, and nothing exoteric or esoteric to explain to you, no appearance or intention to represent to you.’ (quoted in Classics of Buddhism and Zen)

So why do you think they came to him?

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