Shundo David Haye – Zen Priest

‘Q: What is the relationship of what you are saying tonight to the phrase in the chant, “the natural order of mind”?

Suzuki Roshi: Oh, “natural order of mind,” [laughs] very difficult for us. If you understand that, you are big Zen master [laughs, laughter]. “Natural order of mind” [laughs]. But even though you don’t understand it, as long as you are striving for it, to keep the natural order of your mind, that’s good enough.’ (from the Suzuki Roshi Archive)