Shundo David Haye – Zen Priest

‘The truth, the spiritual source, shines clearly in the phenomena – that means truth is always existing in the phenomena. Simultaneously, “phenomena always flows into the darkness” means always truth – so you cannot grasp the phenomena as phenomena, because it’s always flowing into the darkness, truth. It means all phenomena – human body, human mind – no mind, no colors, […] no eyes, no ears. We always chant [this]. Very naturally, strictly speaking, human body, human mind, all sentient beings, flow into darkness – that means the truth. So-called emptiness; or emptiness means [the same as] boundlessness, or countlessness, or eternity, we can say. Or, full presence – we can say so. Full presence, full working, full dynamic working. That is the source, spiritual source.’ (from Katagiri Transcripts)