‘Students cannot gain enlightenment simply because they retain their preconceptions. Without knowing who taught them these things, they consider the mind to be thought and perceptions and do not believe it when they are told that the mind is plants and trees. They think of the Buddha as having marvelous distinguishing marks, with radiance shining from his body, and are shocked when they are told that he is tile and pebble.’ (Shobogenzo Zuimonki)
Not that tile and pebble don’t have distinguishing marks and radiance…
Shundo David Haye 